the mothers of east los angeles, and they lived in a, you know, a very bad neighborhood, very dangerous so this is how they started. when they saw a drug dealer out, they all called each other down the line, all go out. all went out on the lawn, and there were all these mothers, out go the drug dealers. they decided to form an organization. the los angeles government was going to put a trash burner right in front of the school where the kids were going. they said no way. they started to march. there were, you know, several hundred of them marching. okay, the trash didn't come. one after another the incidents, the mothers got together. they said, let's do it. you know, they marched. they cleaned up the area where they lived. they did wonderful things. these were his pappic women, and we don't have a very good opinion of hispanic women. why? i don't know. >> host: i mean, i think that different populations may have their prejudices, but -- >> guest: these were wonderful women. >> host: right, populations have prejudices against other groups of people. immigrants have a hard time in this coun